fetch ([info]slurp) wrote in [info]ontd_feminism,

Why is there antisemitism on the left?

Anti-Semitism and First World Problems:

I'm going to leave discussion of what's going on at Yale to those with personal connections to that university/the relevant organizations, and move on to one of the questions that came up in the discussion with somewhat broader significance. At Slate, historian David Greenberg asks,

"How did a concern with anti-Semitism, whether scholarly or political, come to be seen as the province of the right?"

Greenberg's points are sound, and I certainly agree with his assessment of this particular round of liberals being wary to discuss contemporary anti-Semitism. But he doesn't, I think, get to the root of the question, one that has just about zilch to do with Israel, let alone Walt-Mearsheimer. We're about to go back a century before the founding of that country, so bear with me:

Long ago, a half-century before what we generally think of as the beginning of anti-Semitism (that fin-de-siècle moment, spanning from the coining of the term to the exoneration of Alfred Dreyfus), there were a whole lot of people all worked-up about The Jews. Writing anti-Jewish tirades and so forth. Angry about the Rothschilds, the railroads, and modernity, these sorts have been labeled retroactively "economic anti-Semites." Not yet so interested in racial theorizing, this set objected to Jews not on the basis of religion, but because they saw Jews as too rich and powerful. Economic anti-Semitism fit in with populism, and was housed - you guessed it - on the left. Indeed, it was only during the Dreyfus Affair that anti-Semitism stopped being a socially acceptable element of socialism in France. Prior to that, hating Jews was perfectly compatible with fighting for social justice.

While everything was warm and fuzzy for a little bit, in France, at least, after Dreyfus was freed, but soon enough, Europeans remembered that Jews make a super convenient shorthand for that which populists like to mobilize against. Then there was the Holocaust, which I'm not getting into here, because I'm assuming my readers a) have heard of it, and b) know that economic resentment of Jews entered into it, even though many Jews, particularly in Eastern Europe, were plenty poor, as my atavistic ability to improvise ways to cook a small quantity of potatoes in a way that makes them seem like they're a lot of potatoes attests.

Fast forward to today. We're now living in an age of dividing the marginalized from the privileged, one in which the former get Studies programs, the latter not. (Of course, I study French Studies, so forget what I just said.) While "marginalized" as defined in America these days is not entirely about class, the fact that Jews are understood to be a group of well-off white people means Jewish-specific concerns are understood as by definition First World Problems. The Jewish woman who feels compelled to straighten her hair is simply a white woman with frizz, and ought not to claim hers as a hair-politics concern. The Jewish man rendered uncomfortable by Sarah Palin's praise of Real America should obviously STFU, already, because he's some privileged dude living in city, and every last sitcom since forever is based on his lifestyle. It's not that everyone living today, like me, is neck-deep in 1840s France. It's that there's a certain continuity in how Jews are understood. I mean, even in the 1840s, one French commentator explained that while the Jews were once oppressed, they were now actually all-powerful, but big whiners who complained about being persecuted. Plus ça change comes to mind.

Let me be clear: it's not that it's fundamentally in keeping with being on the left to be anti-Semitic. And I haven't begun to get into the ways in which anti-Semitism fits neatly with many strands of conservatism past and present. But the reason liberals today aren't shouting from the rooftops about anti-Semitism is the same as why they weren't long ago: Jews aren't, or more accurately aren't viewed as, marginalized. Being on the left has always been about supporting the downtrodden, and since anti-Semitism is and always was about accusing Jews of being insufficiently downtrodden, there are only these rare moments when the obvious left-wing position is to get worked up about anti-Semitism - moments when anti-Semitism's on-the-ground influence is so great (think the Dreyfus Affair, the Holocaust) that thinking of Jews as victims becomes uncontroversial.

Where does Israel fit into this? The idea that Zionism was and continues to be the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, a flawed movement but a legitimate liberation movement akin to the postcolonial ones all the same, this gets lost because Israel is a wealthy enough country with a white-ish population. The fact that Israel was founded by those Europe had rejected on account of their "Oriental" "race" and told to "go back to Palestine" gets lost and replaced by the idea that Israel's a country dominated by a bunch of white Europeans - with all the global privilege that entails - who have no place in the Middle East. But the issue isn't really Israel, or even the fact that the Palestinians are indisputably suffering, somewhat more disputably the non-white party in the conflict (disputably because, Ohad Knoller aside, Jewish Israeli's aren't all that white) - it's about how Jews are perceived at home. I suspect that many in America picture Israel as basically a wealthy American suburb, a great big West End Avenue by the sea.

Anyway. Ideally those on the left would see that anti-Semitism is an odd kind of bigotry that surfaces the most when its victims seem to be doing the best, i.e. when they seem the least underdog-ish. And there's no reason understanding this wouldn't be compatible with more straightforward social-justice advocacy, including for the Palestinians. Occasionally some on the left do see this, even in good times, but these tend to be Jews, and, as Greenberg notes, only a handful of Jewish liberals, at that.

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… The extensive and intensive spread of such global conspiratorial thought was dramatically revealed recently by the Egyptian television series Horseman without a Horse, which made use of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a historical source, and the spread in the Arab media of medieval Christian blood libel charges — that Jews kill non-Jewish children in order to use their blood for ritual purposes.

Moishe Postone

This development should be taken seriously. It should neither be treated as a somewhat exaggerated manifestation of an understandable reaction to Israeli and American policies, nor should it be bracketed as a result of the dualistically grounded fear that focusing on it can only further Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Grasping its political significance, however, requires understanding modern anti-Semitism. On the one hand, modern anti-Semitism is a form of
essentializing discourse that, like all such forms, understands social and historical phenomena in biologistic or culturalistic terms. On the other hand, anti-Semitism can be distinguished from other essentializing forms, such as most forms of racism, by its populist and apparently antihegemonic, antiglobal character. Whereas most forms of race thinking commonly impute concrete bodily and sexual power to the Other, modern anti-Semitism attributes enormous power to Jews, which is abstract, universal, global, and intangible. At the heart of modern anti-Semitism is a notion of the Jews as an immensely powerful, secret international conspiracy.

I have argued elsewhere that the modern anti-Semitic worldview understands the abstract domination of capital — which subjects people to the compulsion of mysterious forces they cannot perceive — as the domination of International Jewry.
Anti-Semitism, consequently, can appear to be antihegemonic. This is the reason why a century ago August Bebel, the German Social Democratic leader, characterized it as the socialism of fools. Given its subsequent development, it could also have been called the anti-imperialism of fools. As a fetishized form of oppositional consciousness, it is particularly dangerous because it appears to be antihegemonic, the expression of a movement of the little people against an intangible, global form of domination. It is as a fetishized, profoundly reactionary form of anti-capitalism that I would like to begin discussing the recent surge of modern anti-Semitism in the Arab World….


Hope the format is OK. I'm a bit fed up with conversations about antisemitism including antisemitism ("But Jews/Israel control the media!" etc) so hopefully none of that here.
Tags: jewishness, privilege, race/racism

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[info]basepair

July 15 2011, 16:12:08 UTC 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure we can come up with better examples of issues Jews in America face without resorting to petty and often inaccurate stereotypes of our hair.

We're now living in an age of dividing the marginalized from the privileged, one in which the former get Studies programs, the latter not.

This is a terrible sentence in addition to being a stupid one. People who are marginalized in some ways can be privileged in others. A Studies program is not a reward for putting up with oppression; it's supposed to counter the erasure that group experiences in academic settings. Furthermore, there are Judaic studies programs in colleges. Additionally, many Jewish communities have full-time or part-time yeshiva options available, where Jewish children learn about our culture and people in addition to the Talmud and Torah.

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 16:19:30 UTC 10 months ago

Yeah, I found the hair comment to be really weird, too...

[info]basepair

July 15 2011, 16:20:09 UTC 10 months ago

Additionally, it should be unsurprising that some liberals say or do Anti-Semitic things. There are white liberals who say and do racist things, male liberals who say and do sexist things, abled liberals who say and do ableist things. This phenomenon does not just apply to gentile liberals speaking about Jewish people.

Furthermore, there is intra-community oppression, as well. Jews are not one unified group of people who experience marginalization in the same way. Israel has problems with its Ashkenazi, ethnically Eastern European majority marginalizing Sephardic (Mediterranean/Middle Eastern) and Ethiopian Jews. In some parts of Israel, women are shamed and physically assaulted for not dressing or acting modestly enough.

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[info]lightningxsnow

July 15 2011, 16:21:58 UTC 10 months ago

While I do wish that progressive folks would be more careful about anti-semitism, I see a lot of privilege denial in this article. White Jews have white privilege. Full stop. To claim otherwise does a disservice to Jews who experience both anti-semitism and "regular" racism: Jews of colour. Yes, anti-semitism has been a racialized form of hatred in the past, and still is to some extent, but that doesn't change the white privilege I have as an Ashkenazi Jewish person. Also, it's possible to be privileged in some areas and oppressed in others. Intersectionality is a thing.

[info]basepair

July 15 2011, 16:44:53 UTC 10 months ago

Some Orthodox Racism

[info]slurp

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[info]jiaren_shadow

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[info]tinyrevolution

July 16 2011, 20:31:12 UTC 10 months ago Edited:  July 16 2011, 20:35:06 UTC

White and ashkenazi are not synonyms. There are ashkenazi jews of color, and white non-ashkenazi jews.

I also hate how every discussion of intersection between antisemitism and racism seems to turn into a 101 on these subjects, or debate over relative minutea. It is quite tiresome and really does a disservice to everyone. Why everyone can't just go and read this before engaging, will always be beyond me.

(Not directed at you, just in general)

[info]sephystabbity

July 15 2011, 18:56:42 UTC 10 months ago

I'm not quite sure why this article is posted here on ontd_feminism, because it doesn't seem to have anything to do with it besides the one (very iJewish Israeli's aren't all that whiteffy and side-eye worthy) sentence in the article about hair.

But I'll give my thoughts on it anyhow.

Jewish Israeli's aren't all that white

Umm. Forgive me for being a bit skeptical about this claim.

We're now living in an age of dividing the marginalized from the privileged, one in which the former get Studies programs, the latter not. (Of course, I study French Studies, so forget what I just said.)

OKAY!

Overall, while this article does a better job than most I've seen of anti-semitism in liberalism, it's far from perfect. It's good in that it at least doesn't make some explicity claim that being pro-Palestine is being anti-semitic. However, at the same time, it seems to lump people who are being anti-semitic, with people who are just advocating for freedom for Palestine. Being pro-Palestine is not at all the same thing as being anti-semitic, and I don't think article quite draws a line between the two concepts. Rather, to its detriment, it discusses them both together.

And as for liberals being antisemitic, yes I can believe that. I've seen a lot of people who consider/claim themselves to be liberal, show their true colors as racist assholes. And I'm not sure if the article is claiming otherwise or not (the authors seems to flip-flop a bit on this point), but anti-semitism runs quite rampant on the right also, especially in the US.

[info]sephystabbity

July 15 2011, 18:57:17 UTC 10 months ago

My grammar is shot

*explicit claim

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 19:36:06 UTC 10 months ago

1. From the userinfo: Feel free to submit posts that may not be 'strictly' feminist. We take a broad view of feminism, and consider it to include issues of gender, sex, race, class, sexuality, dis/ability, ethnicity, colonialism, etc. If you think the feminist connection isn't obvious, feel free to add commentary of your own explaining the relationship.
2. Why should you be forgiven for refusing to believe a "claim" (=fact) that you chose to wave away without researching or asking for clarification on?
3. it seems to lump people who are being anti-semitic, with people who are just advocating for freedom for Palestine.
How does it do that when it doesn't even mention the pro-Palestine movement? Huh?

[info]sephystabbity

July 15 2011, 19:48:01 UTC 10 months ago

1. Like I said, I wasn't sure why it was posted here, and thank you for clarifying it for me.

2. It's a stupid claim. Not, not all Jewish Israelis are white. But "Jewish Israelis aren't all that white" is a blanket statment which claims that all Jewish Israelis are not white. This is firstly, a denial of the white privelege that white Jewish Israelis have and secondly, dismissal of the discrimination that non-white Jewish Israelis face.

3. I'll point you to these sentences: (i) And there's no reason understanding this wouldn't be compatible with more straightforward social-justice advocacy, including for the Palestinians. Occasionally some on the left do see this, even in good times, but these tend to be Jews, and, as Greenberg notes, only a handful of Jewish liberals, at that. </i> and But the issue isn't really Israel, or even the fact that the Palestinians are indisputably suffering, somewhat more disputably the non-white party in the conflict and

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[info]tinyrevolution

July 16 2011, 10:36:46 UTC 10 months ago

Having read through some of the context of the excerpt [info]slurp posted, I feel confident saying this comment doesn't add much, but if anything is another example of the problem.

It's good in that it at least doesn't make some explicity claim that being pro-Palestine is being anti-semitic.

Why did you expect otherwise?

However, at the same time, it seems to lump people who are being anti-semitic, with people who are just advocating for freedom for Palestine.

No, it didn't.

[info]sephystabbity

July 16 2011, 14:25:45 UTC 10 months ago

When you start explaining those views, I'll post a more coherent reply to your comment.

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[info]sophiaserpentia

July 15 2011, 19:18:31 UTC 10 months ago

Peter Beinart had some interesting things to say about this a year ago. Basically his argument is that the pro-Israel side of the discussion has been largely taken over by right-wing, hawkish types, which leaves many lefists, including many young Jews, in a position where it is more difficult for them to identify with Israel.

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 22:12:31 UTC 10 months ago

Six times these Jewish youth used the word ‘they‘ rather than ‘us‘ to describe the situation.”
See, that's where it gets complicated. Israel is not "we" for American/non-Israeli Jews. They're not Israeli. Jewish people have always been accused of being more loyal to Israel than their state of living. But they are also still separate, because they are Jewish.

Saving liberal Zionism in the United States—so that American Jews can help save liberal Zionism in Israel—is the great American Jewish challenge of our age. And it starts where Luntz’s students wanted it to start: by talking frankly about Israel’s current government, by no longer averting our eyes.

I agree with this.
And... holy shit, I did not know about Effi Eitam and Likud. About Lieberman, his "loyality oath" thing isn't just about Arabs passes. But I think he is the prime example of "The Chain of Orientalism" that I just read about for my Stratification and Inequality class, which just talked about Shas.

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 22:13:43 UTC 10 months ago

I meant the paper talked mainly about Shas. I think it was written before Lieberman rose to power.

[info]redstar826

July 15 2011, 19:20:37 UTC 10 months ago

I think that, in general, the left often does a really shitty job at looking critically at our own words and actions. I think it can be really easy to say "I can't be racist/anti-Semitic/sexist/homophobic/and so on and so forth! I'm a liberal/socialist/anarchist/whatever!"

Plus, since the right wing tends to be so awful and so unsubtle in their bigotry, it's easy to brush off our own issues by saying that at least we arent as bad as they are.

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 19:39:28 UTC 10 months ago

I agree, and it shows here whenever a different privilege is being discussed...

[info]redstar826

July 15 2011, 19:49:23 UTC 10 months ago

Mostly, I'm just glad that the group I do political work has decided to pretty much stay away from the I/P debates, because it seems like that is where the fail really comes out. And the few times it has come up it has gone reallyyyyy badly. Like I was at an anti-war conference once and I thought that punches were going to get thrown over it. Something about that issue really gets people going, in a way that is different from other heated debates I've seen.

[info]slurp

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[info]trishy_h

July 15 2011, 19:27:43 UTC 10 months ago

I'll join the chorus of people side-eyeing this article. The line about frizzy hair REALLY rubbed me the wrong way and seemed to verge on the appropriative. I also think that the homogenising of Jewish people is incredibly problematic PLUS the conflation between being pro-Palestine and anti-semitism. That accusation in particular always makes me angry.

[info]slurp

July 15 2011, 19:33:33 UTC 10 months ago

The piece doesn't even mention Palestine...

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[info]apis_cerana

July 15 2011, 20:54:51 UTC 10 months ago

There definitely are liberals who become anti-semetic when protesting Israel, unfortunately, and I think it is a huge issue which should be addressed.

However, I'm not a fan of this article for reasons the other folks commenting have raised. .-.

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[info]tinyrevolution

July 16 2011, 09:56:13 UTC 10 months ago

I don't know much about these authors but I just tried to read a few links deep. Seems like they all move in a circle lacking in decent anti-oppression vocabulary, probably from being otherwise-privileged single-issue type activists. They say really weird stupid shit. But I appreciate some of the theory on anti-oppression all the same, I don't read enough of it.

I think reading just the quoted and highlighted parts of what were really long pieces (which were part of a complicated multilogues) is provoking canned reactions from the commenters here turning offhand comments about frizzy hair and the monolithic racialisation of jewishness into tired overplayed back-and-forths.

Just my first thoughts.

[info]tinyrevolution

July 16 2011, 10:00:19 UTC 10 months ago

Another piece of wisdom by this Phoebe Maltz confirms my suspicions: "blacks and gays may protest discrimination without being accused of overstating the case. But every time a Jew cries anti-Semitism, Jews and non-Jews alike call it hysteria."

Yeah just shut up already.

[info]slurp

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[info]tinyrevolution

July 16 2011, 10:02:20 UTC 10 months ago

I appreciate some of the theory on anti-oppression anti-semitism all the same ... is what I meant to say
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